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satch
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:06 pm    Post subject: root beer using essential oils Reply with quote

i am trying to make my own root beer for a restaurant. we will be making a syrup and carbonating via a fountain machine. i would like to make a recipe using essential oils because it saves time and space and is easier than simmering roots, etc. i need help. i tried some things that did not work. i am stuck. i could really use help figuring out what oils to buy and where. and also possible ratios of one flavor to another. i have figured out cola, ginger, lemon lime, but this root beer is really hard!
  
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's amazing. i have been looking for days and hours for artificial sassafrass flavor on the internet and only found one site that sells it and the biggest bottle is 4 ounces. i know i will need this for my recipe but lord have mercy is it hard to find!
i have lots of food grade oils here, wintergreen, anise, bl pepper, allspice.... but i need the sassafrass flavor. i tried an extract but it was not strong enough and too expensive. wow. i really need advice. thanks:)
  
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It might be hard to find larger quantities, but let me check later today to see what I can find.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:07 pm    Post subject: ok Reply with quote

thanks. after a few more hours i did find this site:
http://www.naturesflavors.com
and i have enough other oils to try some recipes now. it seems hard to find a lot of the root beer oils. but after i get the artificial sassafrass i will have that plus wintergreen, anise, fennel, cinammon bark, wintergreen, pappermint, clove, coriander and nutmeg. seems like these might work but i guess i'm just stabbing in the dark at amounts to add. any advice on ratios would be nice, even if just "heavy on these and lighter on these..."
thanks so much for any help.
  
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wish I could provide guidance on that, but I haven't attempted to make much myself. You might be able to get some pointers from parsa or Swagger, who have been much more prolific...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:42 pm    Post subject: Re: root beer using essential oils Reply with quote

satch wrote:
i am trying to make my own root beer for a restaurant. we will be making a syrup and carbonating via a fountain machine. i would like to make a recipe using essential oils because it saves time and space and is easier than simmering roots, etc. i need help. i tried some things that did not work. i am stuck. i could really use help figuring out what oils to buy and where. and also possible ratios of one flavor to another. i have figured out cola, ginger, lemon lime, but this root beer is really hard!


Have you tried just wintergreen or sweet birch oil (methyl salycilate) plus a vanilla-like flavoring such as methyl vanillin? Just those two components should get you close to A&W Root Beer. From there, you can make refinements. I am going to guess that the best vanilla-like compound for root beer is Heliotropin (Pipernol) because, next to Safrole, it is a major constituent of sassafras oil. Unfortunately, heliotropin is a controled substance and using it would involve a lot of red tape. However, I note that Veratraldehyde has been called a "Heleotropin replacer." Food grade Veratraldehyde is available at http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/aldrich/w310905?lang=en&region=US. You need to be a corporation to buy from Sigma-Aldrich. If your restaurant is incorporated, you should have no trouble buying from them. They also have food grade heliotropin, http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/aldrich/w291102?lang=en&region=US.

Please, let me know about your progress.
  
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is good advice. i didnt realize how much wintergreen and vanilla was needed.
i will try some stuff and report back
  
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 2:25 pm    Post subject: How did it turn out? Reply with quote

Funny, I am just getting ready to order some essential oils (Young Living) for the purpose of making root beer. I love Virgil's so I was looking for some of their ingredients. While researching I came across your post. How did your Essential Oil Root beer turn out? Care to share the recipe?
  
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